Pontiacs Moving 2 D

[ZZT]

Is there any truth to the rumour that the Pontiacs are moving 2 D for a Goalie? Names on the board are Ferby and Sadlowski for a goalie out of the BCHL, this may explain why Ferby has been getting so much ice time to showcase him for a trade, if this happens were does Stebner go?

[nixon07]

Yes this is probably true , but they will need more then two average at best defencman to upgrade in net

[Seven]

May very well be true... I would be surprised if Sadlowski went. Ferby is a possibility but he would go with either Van Wiern, Nichol, or Polukoshko

[slappy]

I wonder if the Pontiacs are planning on getting rid of both of their current goalies. I heard that they are picking up Andrew Hayes from one of the Sherwood Park "AAA" teams. Rumour is that he will be reporting this week. If they trade for another Goalie where does that leave Lewis and Stebner?

If they get Hayes, I say trade Lewis and a D-man for a better Goalie.

[MidgetAAA]

Hayes should be with the team now...He left his midget team on sat.

[slappy]

Hayes should be with the team now...He left his midget team on sat.

Mercier is shopping Stebner around the leagues. Not exactly "Carrot on a Stick" material. More like a "stinkbomb on a stick". Good luck with that! Futures are even doubtful. But anything is possible I guess.

:rolleyes:

[WorkHorse]

Hayes should be with the team now...He left his midget team on sat.

Sherwood Park Midget AAA were in Calgary on the weekend, he was on the trip as there wasn't time to get another goalie organized. The team got back Sunday night. He goes to Bonnyville Tuesday.

[ZZT]

Mercier is shopping Stebner around the leagues. Not exactly "Carrot on a Stick" material. More like a "stinkbomb on a stick". Good luck with that! Futures are even doubtful. But anything is possible I guess.

:rolleyes:
Tough Town to play in, from all the posts if your not the 2nd coming of hockey and not a local you are moving on and maybe when you are wet out of the shower. Tough to recruit the balance of talent when it appears that local players is more important than the program. What happened to Coaches and Coaching? A good Coach should be able to make up a Team out of a few skilled players and some hard workers, stop beating the players and lets look at the Coaches and a program that has all the potential to be great, and any local talk can be dealt with by a couple of trades, but that takes guts.
Has any one asked any of the local talent that went else where to play if they had a good time and a better hockey experience?

[ZZT]

Sherwood Park Midget AAA were in Calgary on the weekend, he was on the trip as there wasn't time to get another goalie organized. The team got back Sunday night. He goes to Bonnyville Tuesday.

Add another youngster on the back end and Fontaine will be in his element feeling like he is Coaching a Midget team, might actually work, but really not likely.

[Iron Mike]

Can someone give me the history, or tell me why Fontaine is behind the bench coaching the D? When I watch him "coach" he seems to be doing a lot of yelling, or high-voiced "telling" with arms flailing and lots of theatrics. There doesn't seem to be a lot of "teaching". Now, in fairness I could be all wrong and he could be just a very animated teacher. Obviously, I do not hear what he is saying. I am surprised that Mercier didn't bring in his own staff as most coaches do (or is this a "non-paid" coaching position?)

[scout27]

You are correct sir!!

Fontaine was shoved down Pister's throat. The board brought him on because they thought after the good year of coaching midget AAA he could take over for Jeff. I have yet to talk to a player that respects him. He is limited in what he teaches because he can't. You watch next year without his kid there he wont be asked back. I billet 1 of the players and he tells me all time how frustrating it is to have him behind the bench.

[Yakker]

You are correct sir!!

Fontaine was shoved down Pister's throat. The board brought him on because they thought after the good year of coaching midget AAA he could take over for Jeff. I have yet to talk to a player that respects him. He is limited in what he teaches because he can't. You watch next year without his kid there he wont be asked back. I billet 1 of the players and he tells me all time how frustrating it is to have him behind the bench.

What a crock! You are totally uninformed and it's time to set the record staight. Fontaine was hired by Pister, not by the Board. The Board approved his hiring, but the Board does not get involved in recruiting Assistant Coaches. There was never any thought of Fontaine taking over from Pister since he'd have to leave his career to coach on a full time basis. As for the players not respecting him, that's your opinion, I haven't heard that. After all the misinformation you have put into this post, I have to wonder if you do in fact billet a player.

[ZZT]

What a crock! You are totally uninformed and it's time to set the record staight. Fontaine was hired by Pister, not by the Board. The Board approved his hiring, but the Board does not get involved in recruiting Assistant Coaches. There was never any thought of Fontaine taking over from Pister since he'd have to leave his career to coach on a full time basis. As for the players not respecting him, that's your opinion, I haven't heard that. After all the misinformation you have put into this post, I have to wonder if you do in fact billet a player.

Not sure about who hired who or what the Board involvement was. What the Board should have done was to keep parent Coaching off the bench, 2nd, what the poster says about players not respecting Fontaine is true, they know more about the game then he ever will and he acts like a loon, embrassing himself and the players, they do not respect him, that is a fact.

[PontiacFan]

I was at the Pontiac office yesterday doing an errand for my boss and in the office next door (with the door to the office wide open) talking was Fontaine and Mercier. I overheard Fontaine say something like "Listen Merse, we can't have this kid on the first line, he's not even local and I want my kid playing with somebody I can trust". Of course this is not EXACTLY what was said but that is pretty close to it. I can't remember if he said "local" or "not from here" but anyways, I understood what he meant. He then went on to say that he wanted the Isley brothers playing on the first line with his son. So look for 14, 89 and 16 on the first line this Friday night. Crazy considering 14, 89 and 11 hooked up for some pretty good action last game. 14 points between the three of them in one game!

I go to their office often to deliver items, and some of the stuff I've heard is just out of this world. I'll keep you guys posted.

[coach]

Whats the goalie situation in Pontiac country. Hear they are not happy with the goalies.

[MLG06]

I was at the Pontiac office yesterday doing an errand for my boss and in the office next door (with the door to the office wide open) talking was Fontaine and Mercier. I overheard Fontaine say something like "Listen Merse, we can't have this kid on the first line, he's not even local and I want my kid playing with somebody I can trust". Of course this is not EXACTLY what was said but that is pretty close to it. I can't remember if he said "local" or "not from here" but anyways, I understood what he meant. He then went on to say that he wanted the Isley brothers playing on the first line with his son. So look for 14, 89 and 16 on the first line this Friday night. Crazy considering 14, 89 and 11 hooked up for some pretty good action last game. 14 points between the three of them in one game!

I go to their office often to deliver items, and some of the stuff I've heard is just out of this world. I'll keep you guys posted. hahaha the sad thing is all that was just said is true.. LOCAL LOCAL LOCAL... i wonder y Bezpalko quit an i can see some other boys fallowing his foot steps if this SH*T keeps up..

[Scarking]

So is there anybody else on this topic of the pontiacs who feel like this is the next best thing to the enquirer, the only reason I say that is because so many people guess or talk out of their well you know where, the place you sit. Let's get started, first of, as for somebody being truthful, thanks Yakker for helping scout27, Pfister wanted Mr. Fontaine to help, he hired him nobody but him as for Mr. Mercier same thing, nobody but him asked him. So get your stories straight before throwing stuff out on this site. Assistant coaches are as for anybody who knows the Pontiacs knows nobody gets paid by head coach so the rest of the bench is putting in their own time, their own money when they leave town or do anything for that matter but being you have a billet you know all that. Let's discuss ZZT who always for whatever reason has never said a nice thing about Mr. Fontaine, no matter what you write but if seems you know who quit and why and who you work for in life then you should know everything that goes on. Enough is enough state your opinion but quit trashing him. As for parents on the bench why don't you put your name in the hat seems you know so much about respect and hockey. Look around the league for parents involved, check the panthers who coaches it, the goalie's dad but you know all that. As for Pontiacfan who hears all in the office, you don't know anything look around and listen better cause you don't hear it so well. I know if a line scored every goal in the last game the first thing I would do is split them up. The twenty year olds did nothing on their line, one line did it all. As for local kids welcome to hockey with politics from a town full of politics with parents who tell the coach or buy their kid on the team, get all the story or forget reporting. Local kids are talented, have a look around where they all came from even last year with Beaudoin or Letestu they were local. If you have other people yap about your town then it is hard to recruit and buy talent in a small market. I mean then the team is new coach who has his own ideas but I guess Gretzky has ideas too as a coach and sometimes it takes time to figure stuff out. I do agree Jeff shouldn't have been let go but like I said politics. Now MLG06 if you know Buzz ask him why he quit or what the story is if he doesn't answer you I will. I never seen a player dog it on the ice but in camps win fastest skater, put your heart and soul in the game or get out, guess what he is out. As for any bashing of Justin Fontaine I seen earlier in this topic, check his accomplishments and where he is off to next, Jr. A Challenge. His accomplishments speak for himself and I know he is a talented kid but if you think parent's influence have nothing to do with it then look in the mirror and at anybody who has a kid and see if they have any influence on the guidance of their child. Enough said. This site was shut down before cause of guys who come on here and trash people instead of just talk hockey and know the game. Get the stories straight or talk hockey.

[ZZT]

It's not that I've never said anything nice about Fontiane, I've watched him and he is not the real thing when it comes to Jr hockey coaching, the players know it too. The comments from the person doing deliveries on the disscusions out of the Coaches office are true. So it's not that Fontiane is a bad person, he just isn't a good Coach. Yes he volunteers his time, that is ok but he should keep his yap shut on and off the bench and stop acting like he knows how to Coach and leave that to the Head Coach, the players would respect him more. As a parent he can not help himself, so maybe he and the Team would be better off if he was in the stands or doing 50/50, thats a volunteer job that brings in money to help pay for the program. A real Volunteer will do just about any job to help out, lets see if he will do something away from undue influence in his son's playing partners, then he is a real Volunteer!

[Stormfan66]

I go to their office often to deliver items, and some of the stuff I've heard is just out of this world. I'll keep you guys posted.
Remind me not to get you to deliver anything to me. When I was a delivery person there was an understanding that anything heard during the delivery was confidential. Whats next, a glass to the door when its closed?:mad:
I know this section is for "rumors" but I think that is crossing a line, but that may just be my upbringing speaking out.

[Scarking]

So seems you left your opinion one more time I must reply or you just wouldn't be having fun. I love how you know that the players know it too, and how you know everything that was said everywhere is true. So what do you volunteer for? My point wasn't the part of volunteering my point was that Mercier asked him for his help. Now if you coached any sport with any kind of team you would know that there are some coaches out there that take the reigns and want everybody else on the bench to shut their yaps or there are coaches that love the fact that the D coach is talking to the D players so I guess it comes down to the point with all these people asking him to coach with them that they must see or know something you don't(Oh No, something you don't know) sorry that was rude. So there will always be a team with young players where somebody doesn't respect somebody, part of growing up, part of learning and part of your character. There is players on that team that doesn't respect one another but whose fault is that unless that is Fontaine's too. So I think if Chad had a huge problem with him talking he should tell him but so far the delivery person hasn't reported that so stay tuned. I guess if he doesn't say something then who really should. Now as for you saying he doesn't know how to coach why didn't you go after the job cause I am tired of hearing how he isn't the coach and the truth to the matter is he never wanted to be the Jr A coach, if he did with the politics he probably could have been whether that would be right or not cause seems Pfister was fired then anything can happen. He never really wanted to assist but he did cause he was asked, he knew the kids from midgets and they respected him and I know I am wrong cause you know they don't but we could argue that to death, the only people who really know are the players theemselves so unless you are one which I know you are not then it really doesn't need arguing about anymore. So please get the delivery person to let Chad know that you said the team would be better without Fontaine and that somebody else who wasn't volunteering to take the job should do it. As for the being a real Volunteer it doesn't come down to money, it doesn't come down to time, there isn't a player's parent that wouldn't do anything out there to help their kid or their team but somebody has to do the assistant coaching and if you get asked you volunteer, not leaving them hanging, sorry that is a real volunteer. See on the next thread. I appreciate your thoughts.

[ZZT]

That was quite a ramble. I stick to my observations, Fontaine is not a great Jr A coach, the players deep down don't respect him, they only tolerate him. Bonnyville has gotten a bad reputation for Local Politics interferring in the development of players and the team. Will the team and the program rise above it all, lets hope so. But to build a strong competitive program you are going to need some players from year to year from outside the area, the programs reputation on how players from outside the area are treated could make the difference and could be the deciding factor in the long run of a program surviving for local players too! If the program folds, the local players will get hurt more than anyone, so don't cut off your nose to spite your face! Lets see if Fontaine can coach by bringing the D players up to speed, that would end the debate, I don't think he can, but results can't be argued.:)